{"id":5100,"date":"2023-04-06T21:20:44","date_gmt":"2023-04-06T19:20:44","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/pipol11.pipolcongres.eu\/2023\/04\/06\/le-triomphe-du-pere-armelle-guivarch\/"},"modified":"2023-04-07T07:32:16","modified_gmt":"2023-04-07T05:32:16","slug":"the-triumph-of-the-father-armelle-guivarch","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/pipol11.pipolcongres.eu\/en\/2023\/04\/06\/the-triumph-of-the-father-armelle-guivarch\/","title":{"rendered":"The triumph of the Father \u2013 Armelle Guivarch<\/em>"},"content":{"rendered":"

The Father is still well preserved and has good days ahead. As an analyst and as a woman, with others, we deplore it.<\/p>\n

As crudely and cruelly evidenced by Joyland<\/em>, a film by the young Pakistani director Saim Sadiq: a patriarch reigns over the home where his two sons, their wives and the children of the eldest live. The religion has a limited presence, but we can imagine it through the prescriptions of the old father who knows what a man is, what a woman is, or at least what are the roles that he or she must play. Women will pay the heaviest price when a grain of sand and a beauty spot will disturb the well-oiled machine: the younger brother, who cannot live his homosexuality, falls in love with a young and beautiful transgender.<\/p>\n

The director, in an interview for the French magazine T\u00e9l\u00e9rama<\/em>, tells us that \u201cPakistan relies on a very patriarchal system. But paradoxically it is also a place where trans women are highly visible and important\u2026\u201d[1]<\/a>. They are highly visible, because they panhandle. His film also shows us that they prostitute themselves and risk their lives. It is not as a paradox as it looks like.<\/p>\n

Our newspaper announce it as follows: \u201cthe patriarchy supplanted by love, in Lahore\u201d[2]<\/a>, \u201ca moving family drama that dismantles the patriarchal myth as it occurs in the Eastern world even more than in the Western world\u201d[3]<\/a>.<\/p>\n

It is rather the fatal triumph of the Father.<\/p>\n

During the first of the two conferences in Brussels in March\u00a01960[4]<\/a>, Lacan said that Freud never dropped out the Father. I understand it as: to the point of making it a religion.<\/p>\n

Then Lacan has this phrase: \u201cThe decline of the Oedipus complex is the mourning of the father, but it leaves us with a durable consequence: the identification known as the superego\u201d[5]<\/a>.<\/p>\n

Fourteen years later, in Rome, Lacan told us that psychoanalysts deal with the real, the symptom, namely \u201cwhat doesn\u2019t work\u201d[6]<\/a>.<\/p>\n

But religion will triumph. \u201cIt will triumph not only over psychoanalysis but over lots of other things too. We can\u2019t even begin to imagine how powerful religion is.\u201d [7]<\/a> We will cure humanity from psychoanalysis not with science but with the religious meaning. \u201cReligion is designed for that, to cure men \u2013\u00a0in other words, so that they do not perceive what is not going well.\u201d[8]<\/a><\/p>\n

Lacan saw it as a consequence of the extension of the real of the science and the disruptions that it produces. Its rapid technical progress in the trans<\/em>-formation of the bodies is one of them, which is well illustrated in Joyland<\/em>. The return of the Father is all the more ferocious, and freedom comes at the price of life.<\/p>\n

As for us, we believe, after Lacan, in the perversion<\/em> of the father. \u201cFreud had shown the root of the religious illusion in the function of the Father, and Lacan on the contrary marks the divine mirage which is properly mortifying or psychotising when it is supported by the father. The father must be \u2018perverse\u2019 in the sense that he must be marked by the particularity of a symptom.\u201d[9]<\/a><\/p>\n

[1]<\/a> Besse C., \u00ab\u00a0Saim Sadiq, r\u00e9alisateur de \u201cJoyland\u201d\u00a0: \u201cAu Pakistan, les femmes trans sont tr\u00e8s visibles et tr\u00e8s importantes\u201d\u00a0\u00bb, T\u00e9l\u00e9rama<\/em>, 25\u00a0mai\u00a02022. No translation available.<\/em>
\n[2]<\/a> Cauhap\u00e9 V., \u00ab\u00a0Dans \u201cJoyland\u201d, Saim Sadiq envoie valser le syst\u00e8me patriarcal pakistanais\u00a0\u00bb, Le Monde<\/em>, 28\u00a0d\u00e9cembre\u00a02022. No translation available.<\/em>
\n[3]<\/a> Campion A., \u00ab\u00a0Avec \u201cJoyland\u201d, le Pakistanais Saim Sadiq signe un premier film fascinant dont la vedette est transgenre\u00a0\u00bb, Le Journal du Dimanche, <\/em>27\u00a0d\u00e9cembre\u00a02022. No translation available.<\/em>
\n[4]<\/a> Lacan J., \u00ab\u00a0Discours aux catholiques\u00a0\u00bb, Le triomphe de la religion pr\u00e9c\u00e9d\u00e9 de Discours aux catholiques<\/em>, Paris, Seuil, 2005, p.\u00a069-102. Translation\u00a0: The Triumph of Religion<\/em>, by Jacques Lacan (Author), Bruce Fink (Translator), Polity Press, 2013, p.\u00a03-52.
\n[5]<\/a> Ibid.<\/em>, p.\u00a025.
\n[6]<\/a> Ibid<\/em>., p.\u00a061.
\n[7]<\/a> Ibid<\/em>., p.\u00a064.
\n[8]<\/a> Ibid<\/em>., p.\u00a071-72.
\n[9]<\/a> \u00ab\u00a0Freud avait montr\u00e9 la racine de l\u2019illusion religieuse dans la fonction du P\u00e8re, et Lacan au contraire marque le mirage divin qui est \u00e0 proprement mortif\u00e8re ou psychotisant quand il est support\u00e9 par le p\u00e8re. Il faut que le p\u00e8re soit pervers au sens o\u00f9 il doit \u00eatre marqu\u00e9 par la particularit\u00e9 d\u2019un sympt\u00f4me.\u00a0\u00bb. Miller J.-A., \u00ab\u00a0L\u2019orientation lacanienne. L\u2019Un-tout-seul\u00a0\u00bb, enseignement prononc\u00e9 dans le cadre du d\u00e9partement de psychanalyse de l\u2019universit\u00e9 Paris\u00a08, cours du 6\u00a0avril\u00a02011. Not published<\/em>. Translation for this article only.<\/em><\/p>\n

Translation: M. Rabesahala
\nProofreading: C. Grolleau<\/p>\n

Picture : \u00a9 Elena Madera<\/p>\n<\/div>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

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